tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post5344789616279276657..comments2024-02-23T23:53:54.842+09:00Comments on Gusts Of Popular Feeling: Korean schools helpless in the face of foreign English teachersmatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10296009437690229938noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-63954362454409443262011-09-30T21:15:40.031+09:002011-09-30T21:15:40.031+09:00I think ZenKimchi has the right idea that the 60 t...I think ZenKimchi has the right idea that the 60 to 70 million cited is not merely the monthly salary of the individual, though, as he states, chonse doesn't make up the rest. <br /><br />In that "cost per year," is it possible the Ulsan school is also including peripheral KoKo staff related to the hire of the English teachers? <br /><br />Whatever the case is, those "costs" should be made a bit clearer. At least they made clear the 60 to 70 million is NOT salary, since the following paragraph says the salary is 1.5 to 2.7 million. There was a time when the exorbitant salaries of English teachers relative to the college-educated KoKo population was a sore point commonly aired in the media. Stagnant salaries since the 1990s, as supply rose even faster than demand has gone a long way toward changing that, sadly.kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-9001503910409743672011-09-29T00:29:47.554+09:002011-09-29T00:29:47.554+09:00I just want to break down those numbers. Now, a te...I just want to break down those numbers. Now, a teacher in Ulsan who makes the maximum of 2.7 million/month has years of experience and an advanced degree from an ivy league university. The average Korean university graduate gets paid 2.3 million right out of the gate.<br /><br />2.7 x 12 = 32.4 million/year<br />Plus 4 million (overestimating) airfare both ways. This would not be the full amount if the teacher is, as said before, experienced.<br />36.4 million/year<br /> <br />Ulsan spends "60-70 million won per year." Let's take the lower end of that number. <br /><br />60 - 36.4 = 23.6 million won/year for housing, medical, and "bonus."<br /><br />Medical and "bonus" (severance) are both required by law. Housing is usually covered through key money and maybe a small rent. So, yeah, the key money would be more than the 20 million left over, but do you pay key money each year?<br /><br />I'd assume the average closet they put teachers in costs 60-80 million in key money, which is covered in 3-4 years.<br /><br />I'd say the issue is Korea's outdated and outrageous housing system combined with the inability to keep a teacher here for long, making airfares rise. An ivy league advanced degree earner with years of experience not making much more than a four-year university student from a no-name university by international standards--well, I think we reveal a bit of the issue and hypocrisy there.<br /><br />The only thing they really have to complain about is the free housing. Yet you could argue that foreigners are at a disadvantage to Koreans in that they don't have the support system to help in getting a house with 60 million won key money. I doubt many people would come here and put down 60 million won so they could make 30 million a year.ZenKimchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00081373174186807282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-9567803853192742622011-09-28T16:49:25.385+09:002011-09-28T16:49:25.385+09:00It's entirely possible that on ONE set of book...It's entirely possible that on ONE set of books which the reporters saw, the NET's are getting paid that much money. Whether that's the same amount deposited into their accounts would be a matter for a DIFFERENT set of books.Adam Arrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09212738748275865713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-60748430173480159612011-09-28T14:38:16.122+09:002011-09-28T14:38:16.122+09:00"The Korean teacher always takes charge of pl..."The Korean teacher always takes charge of planning the lessons..."<br /><br />*sucks air through teeth* Well THERE's your problem.monty_internettyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15677486777092877328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-47511922436693064792011-09-28T14:00:28.411+09:002011-09-28T14:00:28.411+09:00So, let's get rid of the dirty foreign PS NET&...So, let's get rid of the dirty foreign PS NET's.<br /><br />Oh HAI, then the hagwons simply take up all the slack and further reinforce an already imbalanced class system between rich parents and poor parents.<br /><br />Also, this made me laugh out loud -- new "household appliances" are purchased every year for every new NET? As opposed to hand-me-downs from the former teacher?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com