tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post7419143191912120336..comments2024-02-23T23:53:54.842+09:00Comments on Gusts Of Popular Feeling: More trains to be in service on Line 9 by year's endmatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10296009437690229938noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-55968707817675825782011-06-29T20:20:07.082+09:002011-06-29T20:20:07.082+09:00They will also be able, if they want, to couple tw...They will also be able, if they want, to couple two units together to make an eight car train for rush hour services. This is absolutely standard on suburban lines in London, where we don't have trains built as single eight car units.<br /><br />I would guess that July is when the delivery of new trains was expected to begin and it will take several months for all twelve sets to be built and delivered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-41778424364025993042011-06-29T01:47:58.587+09:002011-06-29T01:47:58.587+09:00Good points about induced demand; I imagine, in th...Good points about induced demand; I imagine, in the short term at least, it should solve some of the crowding problems. But because of the need to route all-stop trains onto bypass tracks (that are only at some stations) when an express approaches, I doubt they can fit that many more trains in during rush hours as the other lines do. I imagine they will be more spread out during the day, which isn't such a help in terms of alleviating rush hour crowding.<br /><br /><em>"It's easy to avoid using the 9. It doesn't go anywhere public transport didn't before it opened."</em><br /><br />Perhaps, but Gangseo-gu had a large 'subway black hole' which Line 9 solved, and some of the existing bus routes (about half as fast as the subway) were removed after Line 9 opened. While I use it for work, I find AREX to be more useful to go downtown, and it will be especially so when the transfer to Gongdeok opens.matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10296009437690229938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-37435224015413740622011-06-28T11:57:52.914+09:002011-06-28T11:57:52.914+09:00I sympathize. I hate line 9 because of the crowdin...I sympathize. I hate line 9 because of the crowding.<br /><br />I wonder if something like induced demand, an engineering problem with automobile traffic occurring when increasing the number of lanes on a highway, occurs with subway traffic? Providing more of a thing encourages more use of it. Building a traffic lane on a busy highway usually results in more congestion rather than less. You want to reduce congestion, charge money to drive on the highway. Or, with line 9, charge more to ride the train.<br /><br />I think 9 gets so many passengers because of the location and direction of the line. There's no convenient one-bus solution to get where this train gets you in such a short period of time. And we all know how impatient people are in Seoul. Noryangjin to Gangnam is always going to be insanely busy. Always.<br /><br />I think the more cars will initially result in reduced congestion, but I do believe use will increase not spread out. No matter what they do, there's only one way to reduce demand, in my opinion: raise prices.<br /><br />It's easy to avoid using the 9. It doesn't go anywhere public transport didn't before it opened. In my mind, the more people use it, the less busy the other means of transport will be. And that's a good thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04336286974067459325noreply@blogger.com