tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post36990253645649891..comments2024-02-23T23:53:54.842+09:00Comments on Gusts Of Popular Feeling: More on the Facebook videomatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10296009437690229938noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-23090061587653977032013-07-19T15:36:25.514+09:002013-07-19T15:36:25.514+09:00King Baeksu, although I think you are likely corre...King Baeksu, although I think you are likely correct about this being staged, I don't think your argument is necessarily sound. <br /><br />For starters, regarding point #1, I don't think "thelastknownsurvivor" gains any particular credibility for identifying the location of the shoot, since anyone who has been there could figure it out the same way you did. This line of thinking would have us believe that YOU may be "thelastknownsurvivor" for having identified it as well.<br /><br />Regarding point #2, I don't think the absence of the woman coming forward to press charges or sue for defamation is particularly supportive of the idea that she herself was a knowing and willing actor-participant. Defamation cases come with a price tag, sometimes paid ahead of time, in this case not yet paid, but with the bill due as soon as she identifies herself (or is identified by others). <br /><br />Look at the skewering she took by some in the Korean-language commentariat: What would she gain from a lawsuit that would be worth what she would further go through? <br /><br />That said, the thing that makes me believe it was staged is the infinity-wave flow of the camera during the filming. This is atypical of handheld amateur video but quite common in on-the-scene videos filmed for Korean television programs. It is designed to make the scene less static and therefore more interesting. Thus, it appears to me that the person behind the camera was trained in Korean video/filmmaking. kushibohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10306033998028548550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-11689963686546288552013-07-19T11:03:00.098+09:002013-07-19T11:03:00.098+09:00I've spoken with several Korean government inv...I've spoken with several Korean government investigators about this case, and this is what they had to say:<br /><br />1. Like photographs, most videos should bear a time stamp, so if the time stamp of this video matches claims made by "thelastknownsurvivor" and his purported associates that it was made a few years ago, that would further buttress his credibility, since he has already correctly identified the location of the shoot.<br /><br />2. I asked them if they felt that this was a criminal case and they said that at this point, since the woman who appears in the video has not come forward, either filing charges with police against the men in the video or suing the uploaders -- whether on YouTube or Facebook -- for defamation, they did not believe that this incident can be classified as a crime. Given that there is a strong financial incentive for her to sue for defamation, since she has not done so in the past six weeks would mitigate against the arguments of those who claim that the video is real and shows genuine sexual assault or harassment.<br /><br />3. Tracking down the IP address of the individual who uploaded the video to YouTube on June 8th and embedded it on Jagei.com would be a key part of the investigation, and in a genuine criminal case, a warrant could be served to YouTube and Jagei.com with orders to hand over the IP address or addresses of any individuals involved. Short of that, identifying the ID or account name of the YouTube user who uploaded the video on June 8th could be useful, since their online activity and history could potentially be tracked with fruitful results.<br /><br />4. The IP address of "thelastknownsurvivor's" comments on The Washington Post could also be traced, but again a warrant would be needed. In any case, has this ID appeared elsewhere on the Internet?<br /><br />5. One investigator felt the timing of the Facebook upload was suspicious, since there was a month-lag lag between then and when it was first uploaded to YouTube on June 8th. The Asiana Airlines Flight 214 crash occurred on July 6th, shortly before Moodclip uploaded the video to Facebook (according to The Post, the video was uploaded to Facebook on July 8th). I'm going to assume that the July 8th Facebook upload was done by "Moodclip," who has since removed the video from his account. Who is Moodclip? Did he have a vested interest in distracting attention from the Asiana crash? Does he or she possibly work for Asiana in some capacity, either directly or indirectly? In any case, what prompted this individual to upload the video once again, at that specific moment in time?<br /><br />Thoughts? Can anyone ID the June 8th YouTube uploader, and is anyone willing to download the video and search for a time stamp on it? I'm afraid I'm not technically savvy enough to do so myself! King Baeksuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15106210206814275410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-26353292108740963852013-07-19T08:55:22.835+09:002013-07-19T08:55:22.835+09:00JF Power twitter: "More sources emerging in K...JF Power twitter: "More sources emerging in Korean nightclub abuse video story. Stay tuned."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-77517881655115812402013-07-19T06:36:48.146+09:002013-07-19T06:36:48.146+09:00From Max Fisher's Twitter feed, less than an h...From Max Fisher's Twitter feed, less than an hour ago: "Just spent the last however many hours reading about Robert Lady, the CIA station chief detained in Panama. Super fascinating. Post soon."<br /><br />I think we can all give Fisher a pass -- he's obviously too busy to get to the bottom of this story for now.King Baeksuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15106210206814275410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-33233648377094598532013-07-19T06:22:53.889+09:002013-07-19T06:22:53.889+09:00"But hey, just because there are people leavi..."But hey, just because there are people leaving comments saying how they want to 'tear apart the Yankee bastards' or see them 'get stabbed to death,' in a Yonhap report about his article, there's no reason to look into the possibility that the cause of this anger was not even real, right?"<br /><br />I'd like to also note that this story affects tens of thousands of Korean women in relationships with Western men as well. On Wednesday I met the long-time Korean girlfriend of an American friend and when I mentioned the video she immediately knew what I was talking about, saying, "It's been all over Feacebook, dude." She did not appreciate all the hateful online comments against Korean women dating Western men, and said she would feel quite relieved if the video turned out to have been staged.<br /><br />In 2013, is a Korean woman still automatically a "slut" or "whore" just because she's in a loving relationship with a non-Korean man? In the minds of many, it would seem so, and Fisher's story has gone a long way towards reinforcing such stereotypes and resentments -- with hardly any real evidence to back it up. King Baeksuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15106210206814275410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12946845.post-29175908180795411812013-07-19T01:28:44.717+09:002013-07-19T01:28:44.717+09:00Power says "More sources emerging in Korean n...Power says "More sources emerging in Korean nightclub abuse video story. Stay tuned."<br /><br />Unfortunately, Fisher still hasn't felt the need to investigate. At this point I would think he'd have to given that the factual basis for his story has come into serious question. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com